Showing posts with label Revolvers. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Revolvers. Show all posts

Tuesday, June 28, 2016

Firearm Forum Question: What is a Reasonable Price for an Extra Ruger Cylinder

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Can you give me some guidance on how much I should pay for an Extra Ruger Revolver Cylinder? 
Thank you Karl Zicon.

Answer :
Blog Administrator -
Always remember, the market drives the price, i.e. Economics 101, Law of Supply and Demand.

Saying that, Ruger Cowboy Single Action Revolver Cylinders are in two general categories, the original 3-Screw Version plus that next generation, and the current models which are mainly manufactured by third parties like Davidson and Lipsey.

If you can find an extra or replacement cylinder the Ruger Cowboy 22LR and 22 Magnum are the most commonly available and run about $125.00 on eBay. The 357 Magnum and 44 Magnum are going between $95.00 and $125.00. The 45 Long Colt (LC) is around $75.00. The 45 acp goes for around $125.00. The 41 Magnum and 44-40, which are rare can be upwards of $175.00. The later version 9mm and 30 Caliber are $125.00 to $200.00.
Special Note: Lately the 357 Magnum has been popular because these can be bored out to accept a 9mm and 44-40. See pictures of some Ruger cylinders below:
Ruger 22 LR (Long Rifle) Cylinder -
Ruger 357 Magnum Cylinder -
Ruger 45acp and 45 LC (Long Colt) Cylinders -
Ruger Factory Blackhawk Original 45acp Cylinder -

Bearcat and Bisley Ruger Cylinders often are engraved -


If you are shopping for an extra or replacement cylinder, be patient, and check eBay frequently to find what you want.

The double Action Ruger Cylinders (all calibers) are around $125.00, make sure these are complete with the ejector rod.
Parts of a Double Action Revolver -

The prices above do not include the old Ruger Black Powder Revolvers, or conversion cylinders which can still be purchased new for around $230.00.
Ruger 45 Long Colt Black Powder Cylinder -
Commentary -
The older Ruger cylinders are getting harder to find and more expensive. Double Action Revolver Cylinders are NOT interchangeable with Cowboy style Single Action Handgun Cylinders.

Disclaimer -
The prices above are a guideline based on current market at time of the post.

==> My recommendation is -
Make damn sure the Ruger cylinder you purchase is for your Ruger Revolver.
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Monday, June 27, 2016

Firearm Forum Question: What Kind of Leather Conditioner to Use on Rifle Slings and Holsters

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What kind of Leather Conditioner should I Use on my Rifle Slings and Holsters
Thank you Betty the Boop.

Answer :
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The best product to use is Virgin Olive Oil.
Reason, Olive Oil does not contain water. Many leather conditioners contain water.
Water inhibits rust and corrosion.
Simply apply, let stand for 15 minutes, wipe excess off.
I recommend applying the Virgin Olive Oil to all your leather slings and holsters every 6-months.
You can apply the olive oil to the inside of a holster, it will also help keep moisture off the handgun.



Commentary -
Although there is a lot of hype about leather conditioners Virgin Olive Oil is all natural and will not harm either the sling, holster, or firearm.

==> My recommendation is -
Virgin Olive Oil for all your Firearm Leather Accessories.
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Tuesday, June 21, 2016

Firearm Forum Question: Supreme Court Refuses to Hear Case on Firearms, a Win for Anti-Gun Supporters

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Can you share any information on the recent Supreme Court ruling banning certain types of weapons including assault rifles? 
Thank you Benjamin R. Suncrest.

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Answer :
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The U.S. Supreme Court, currently short one judge, ruled on Monday, June 20, 2016, in a split decision 4-4 that they would NOT hear an appeals case banning Assault Weapons passed in Connecticut and New York.
This puts a serious blow to Gun Owners.
It allows the laws passed in Connecticut and New York to stand, at least for now.
This decision comes just after the Orlando shootings by an ISIS follower and born U.S. Radicalized Muslim.
The Connecticut weapons (gun) ban was passed after the Sandy Hook Shootings by Governor Dannel Malloy in April 2013. Expanding on an earlier assault weapons ban in the state, it banned more than 100 types of firearms along with magazines that can hold more than 10 rounds of ammunition. Governor Andrew Cuomo signed a similar ban in New York.

This is a serious blow to Gun Owners and the Second Amendment to the U.S. Constitution, The Right to Keep and Bear Arms.

Anti-Gun Liberal loons are just thrilled with themselves. President Obama said. "This is a start but does not go far enough."

Not covered in the news, it does, however, support the 10th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution concerning States Rights.

IMPORTANT: This is why this years presidential election is so damn important. If you are a Gun owner or plan on becoming a Gun Owner or someone in you family is a Gun owner you cannot allow Hillary Clinton to become President of the United States.
Reason: The next president will be appointing new judges, possible as many as 3 to the U.S. Supreme Court.
The democrat agent is to abolish the 2nd Amendment and take away everyone's guns, regardless of what they say. There methodology is to slowly erode your gun rights, and they have been very successful since 1928. In short, Liberals never pass up the opportunity to create havoc among voters by using a tragedy to expand their Liberal agenda.
The First Amendment gives us the Right to Free Speech and Religion, but remember the Second Amendment insures the First and all others cannot be taken away by an out of control government.



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Saturday, June 18, 2016

Firearm Forum Question: Federal Court Ruling on Concealed Carry Permits

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Someone told me Gun Rights Activist (Pro Gun / Gun Owners) lost a battle in Federal Court over carrying a concealed weapon, what can you tell me?
Thank you James McMillin.


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Answer :
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There was a ruling in Federal Court, the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals that ruled:
No Right to Concealed Gun Carry.

See more below ....







Essentially in a divided court, by a vote of 7-4, the 9th Federal Appeals Court on Thursday, June 9, 2016, stated that there is NO Constitutional Right to Carry a Concealed Weapon.
The court stated ....
"The protection of the Second Amendment - whatever the scope of that protection may be simply does not extend to the carrying of concealed firearms in public by members of the general public."
These action and ruling was brought upon by Gun Owners in two California counties challenged the requirement that they show "good cause," as defined by county sheriffs, before they could get concealed carry permits.
The court declined to say whether the Constitution protects openly carrying a gun in public. It said that question was not at issue in the case.

The court claimed its decision on the following ...
Thursday's majority opinion traced the rights of gun owners from medieval England to the founding of the United States and through the Civil War, finding that local laws almost universally prohibited carrying concealed firearms in public.
In 1897, well after the adoption of the Second Amendment, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled that "the right of the people to bear arms is not infringed by laws prohibiting the carrying of concealed weapons."
The appeals court said it followed the U.S. Supreme Court's method of looking to history to resolve gun rights issues.
"Because the Second Amendment does not protect in any degree the right to carry concealed firearms in public, any prohibition or restriction a state may choose to impose on concealed carry including the requirement of 'good cause,' however defined is necessary allowed by the Amendment," the 9th Circuit said.
Many states have similar restrictions on concealed carry, and the lower courts are divided on whether they violate the Second Amendment. So far, however, the Supreme Court has declined to take up the issue in the wake of its landmark 2008 ruling that found a right to own a gun at home for self-defense.

Important: The 9th Circuit has jurisdiction over most of the Western Sataes, as shown below. If another Federal Court rules differently, it the would be decided by the Supreme Court which is currently short one judge.

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Friday, July 31, 2015

Firearm Forum Question: What is a Fluted Cylinder

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What is a Flutted Cylinder and what is its purpose?
Thank you Luck 8.

Ruger Cowboy Six Gun with Smooth Cylinder .....

Ruger Cowboy Six Gun with Fluted Cylinder .....

Answer :
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Fluted versus full smooth cylinder is a design whereby some of the material (metal) of the cylinder is cut out of the surface to reduce the weight. These cut outs are groves in the cylinder and do not affect the performance of the revolver.
In some cases barrels are fluted, especially sniper style rifles.
Both style cylinders can be found on Single Action and Double Action Revolvers made by Ruger, Colt, and Smith-Wesson.
Many cowboy shooters with single action revolvers prefer fluted cylinders because it aids in indexing the cylinder (lining up the cylinder with your fingers with the chambers).
Originally all cylinders were made smooth.
Larger caliber handguns such as the 44 magnum more weight is preferred to reduce the recoil.
Smaller handgun calibers like the .22, 38, and 357 make the gun lighter and easier to use for most people.
I own a Ruger Birds Head Cowboy Revolver and have interchangeable cylinders that include 45 Long Colt, 45 ACP, and 41 Magnum all of which are fluted, and a 44 Magnum that is not fluted (smooth).
A lot of people think the Fluted Cylinder is more aesthetic looking.
See pictures above.

Related Topic Posts at The Firearms Forum Site:
1) Ruger Cowboy Revolvers -

2) Cowboy Revolver, Which is Best the Ruger, Colt, or Uberti -

Commentary -
There are no issues on owning either a Fluted or Smooth Cylinder. It is a personal preference. I would recommend a smooth cylinder on larger calibers such as the 44 Magnum, 30 Caliber, 454 Casull. etc.
==> My recommendation on Cylinders is -
a BUY by Personal Choice.

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Thursday, July 16, 2015

Firearm Forum Question: Can You Sell a Firearm Without a Serial Number

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My grandfather left me an old shotgun that does not appear to have any serial number, is this legal to own, and can I resell it? 
Thank you James Woodall.


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Answer :
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Yes this firearm is legal to own, shoot, and resell as long as it meets the minimum barrel length and overall length as defined by the ATF.

If a firearm has been modified or is a fully automatic weapon you can still legally own the weapon but you need to acquire a Federal Tax Stamp from the ATF, the current cost is $200.00 per firearm.

More ....
Generally when these older weapons are sold through a license gun dealer (FFL) or an auction house they fill out the required ATF form for transfer and where it indicates a Serial Number (S/N) they write ...
NVSN (No Visible Serial Number).
Prior to the Gun Control Act of 1968, the U.S. Government Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms (ATF) did not require manufacturers to have serial numbers on a firearm of any type. Many manufacturers had a serial number dating back to the 1800s but there was no regulation requiring such markings.
However after the Gun Control Act of 1968, known as the GCA, ALL new firearms manufactured for sale in the United States had to have a serial number.

There are some exceptions about serial numbers:
Prototypes by Licensed Gun Manufacturers are generally exempt
Weapons made by non FFL manufacturers are exempt
Modified Weapons (however, these require a Federal Tax Stamp from the ATF)
Weapons made for the Military or Intelligence Agencies are exempt

Important Note: Removal of a Serial Number is a Federal Crime.

Related Gun Ownership Information ....
1) It is prohibited to own, make, or sell Undetectable Firearms (any firearm with less than 
    3.7 ounces of metal content , or 3D made plastic).
2) Personal Ownership of a Fully Automatic or a Modified Firearm to be Fully Automatic is 
    prohibited unless the individual has acquired a Federal Tax Stamp from the ATF.
3) The interstate private sale of a firearm with or without a serial number is prohibited, this 
     sale must go through a licensed FFL (be shipped by an FFL located in your state to a 
     Licensed FFL in the state in which the buyer resides).
4) Local State, County, and City Laws may exist in your area for the sale, trade, or
    purchase of firearms. Check with a local FFL in your area, or the local police with  
    jurisdiction, or a lawyer with knowledge of firearm laws. 

Other Related Topic Posts at The Firearms Forum Site:

1) Gun Ownership, Legal Stuff, and the ATF -
http://askafirearmsquestion.blogspot.com/2014/12/firearm-forum-question-gun-ownership.html

2) Firearms Types -
http://askafirearmsquestion.blogspot.com/2015/02/firearm-forum-question-firearm-types.html

3) Explaining Firearm Categories or Status -
http://askafirearmsquestion.blogspot.com/2015/02/firearm-forum-question-explaining.html


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Saturday, July 11, 2015

Firearm Forum Question: Review and Testing of the 45 Colt Dakota Revolver by Armi Jager

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I recently purchased for $200.00 an old 45 Colt Dakota Cowboy Revolver by Armi Jager from Italy. Is there anything you can tell me about this handgun? 
Thank you Sedge Bulnap.

Some Photos of The Colt Dakota Cowboy 45 Long Colt (LC) Revolver:






Answer :
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I am very familiar with the Armi Jager Dakota Cowboy Revolver, I use to have one.
I would like to start off by saying you got a great Cowboy Revolver and at a very good price.

Above are some of my old pictures of my Dakota 45LC.

Below is some history, downside to this handgun, upside to this cowboy six shooter, more photos, and a homemade video of the Armi Jager Cowboy Revolver.
These are now collectible.
I originally paid $250.00 for mine, did a cowboy action job, another $75.00, put around 1,500 rounds through it and sold the revolver for $450.00.

First the firearm is a cloned copy of the Colt Model 1873 Single Action Army Revolver.

A famous Cowboy Shooter named Bob Munden used the Dakota 45LC as part of of his shooting demonstrations and made the Armi Jager Dakota Cowboy Revolver famous -

This Post is Updated

Specification on the Dakota Cowboy Armi Jager Model 1873 Single Action Army Revolver that I personally owned -
Importer : Armi Jager of Italy
Manufacturer:  E.M.F. Company
Manufactured in the 1980's by F.LLI Pietta of Italy for EMF USA.
Also marketed as: EMF DAKOTA TARGET SAA
Copy of Colt 1873 Single Action Army Model with 4 3/4 Inch Barrel 
  often referred to as the 'Sheriff's Model'
Caliber: 45 LC (Long Colt)
Model: Dakota
Action: Single Action 6-Shot Revolver
Single 4-Position Hammer
Standrad Slide Ejector
Rounds: Can Handle 45 LC Lead, 45 LC Flat, 45 LC Hollow Point,  
  anybrand including properly done reloads
Wood Mahogany Pistol Grips
Barrel Length: 4 3/4 Inches (4.75)
Overall Length: 10 1/4 Inches (10.25)
Brass Metal Frame
Standard Blued Barrel
Fixed Front Ruger Style Sights
Copy of Colt Revolver (Clone)
Metal Trigger
Metal Trigger Guard Assembly
Has 3 Stamped Proof Marks on right side of Brass Metal Frame
Metal Frame, front of Trigger Guard is the Serial Number (S/N) Location
Barrel Markings:
  Top of Barrel  - Armi Jager Italy 
  Left Side of Barrel – Dakota Cal. 45 Colt
  Right Side Barrel – 2 Stamped Proof and Manufacturing Marks
  Armi of Italy is the Importer not the Manufacturer.
  Approximate Weight: With 5 rounds is 2 pounds.


About the Dakota Cowboy Armi Jager Model 1873 Single Action Army Revolver:
   Part of the information contained in this section is attributed to Sack Peterson
   a.k.a. Stag Gun Grips - http://www.sackpeterson.com
This was called Italy's first cloned Colt Cowboy Gun.
If you remember in the 60's there were a lot of so-called 'B' Rated Cowboy movies made in Italy.
Cowboy shooting became very popular in Italy and spread to other parts of Europe.
The frontier revolver made by Great Western Arms of California had a clone of the Colt Peacemaker. 
Armi Jager otherwise know as Adler Jager was a German and Italian Gun Manufacturer located in the small town of Loano Italy. Firearms production ended in the 1990s do to lack of skilled personnel according to the owner, Mr. Piscetta. There still exist a small gun store that offers gunsmithing works in the town of Basaluzzo Italy renamed Nuova Jager.
The original company was acquired in 2009 to make AR15 style weapons distributed by San Swiss Arms.
Even with strong demand, price competition drove them from the market place by 1961. Mail order houses like Navy Arms, Dixie Gun Works, and EMF were sourcing their replica inventory from central Europe, where manufacturing was less expensive.
The Colt Peacemaker clone now established as the signature piece of serious replica was in demand. The first European built reproduction of the Colt SAA was by JP Sauer of Germany. It was sturdy and inexpensive, the Sauer clone single handedly destroyed the price competition in America.
By the 60’s, gunsmiths and job shops of northern Italy became very adept at supplying US frontier cowboy replicas. There, several family shops that thrived and grew into enduring, world class gun makers: Uberti and Pietta remain today. Armi San Marco, Armi San Paolo, and Jager were very successful over the 70’s and 80’s.
Armando Piscetta and his Loano company Armi Jager started building Colt Peacemaker clones in 1962. A small USA importer, Inter Continental Arms, began selling these in the US. Inter Continental called it the “Dakota”.
Jager’s early single action was significant as Italy’s first Peacemaker clone. More so, it was quite a bit better than the German Sauer revolver. It was finished nice, functioned well, and still affordable. It established a reputation for quality among the Italian Cowboy Shooters.
The History of the Jager Single Action Cowboy Revolver -
Early on, the pattern for Piscetta’s Jager single action was set. It was blue and color case hardened with Italian hardwood grips. It had a brass grip assembly. The flamboyant brass straps are an easy to spot, but the Jager revolvers were nonetheless handsome and well finished.
Inter Continental Arms imported the Jager single action into the USA with some exclusivity through the 60’s.
In the beginning years, the Dakota didn’t have a maker’s logo. Brescian proof marks and a “Made in Italy” script were the only indicators of origin. In 1969 some of Inter Continental’s cowboy style revolvers began showing a Hammerli or a Switzerland stamp. What can be demonstrated is the Dakota was being built in two places for a time: in Italy, by Jager, and in Switzerland, by Hammerli. Hammerli built Dakotas were numbered within the existing Jager serial range, indicating an aligned if not joint venture by the two companies to furnish the Dakota to American importers.
Hammerli already owned a stellar reputation for target pistols. New Hammerli built cowboy revolvers made an immediate inpact on US Cowboy Shooters. By 1972 Hammerli was signed by Interarms to make their Virginian revolver. Hammerli then ceased building the Dakota, leaving that to Jager as before.
Demand for the Dakota replica remained, but importers came and went throughout the 1970’s. Inter Continental ceased business in about 1975. EMF picked up the Dakota trademark and became Jager’s highest volume importer. The Dakota revolver was also imported in lesser numbers by Kassnar and Navy Arms. These guns are the same, but go by “1873" or "Frontier” model name. Odd models with “IGI” and “Italguns” importer markings (Kansas model) are also Jager revolvers. By this time all guns have “ARMI JAGER – ITALY” stamped markings.
Sales of the Jager pattern cowboy revolver were robust for the next decade but eventually fell off. Cowboy action shooting was established in the 80’s. Single action shooters favored replicas with more authentic appearance. EMF dropped the Jager as its flagship revolver in favor of models by Armi San Marco and Uberti, some of which they labeled the "New Dakota". Armi Jager stopped building the Colt Peacemaker clone in 1993.
Colt Clone Model Variations -
Besides its basic color cased and blued model, Jager also did runs in Sheriff, Bisley, Buntline, and Target model configuration. A catalog has become standard among replica Peacemaker manufacturers.
The Jager’s Buntline was a detailed reproduction. Some had ladder sights, along with a finely rendered skeleton stock.
In 1980 EMF also briefly imported the Jager revolver as an unfinished kit. This was in effect a second take on the old Great Western Arms kit guns (EMF having owned Great Western for a time). Jager kits are called “Californian” models.
Inter Continental Arms contracted with Jager for a modern, big-bore hunting revolver to compete with Ruger’s Super Blackhawk. This model was called the Super Dakota. It featured target sights, an elongated grip assembly, and chambering in a selection of modern performance calibers. These guns date from 1965 to 1970. They are high quality.
Jager offered an engraved model to its distributors throughout production years.  Examples will generally conform to one of two basic patterns. Among earlier production, frames are coin finished and engraved with barrels blued. Late production engraved guns are nickel plated. Some of these late examples feature a cattle brand pattern. In all cases, engraving was etched or machine rolled.
A US Army commemorative was built in the 1980’s. These are cavalry style 45 Long Colt with 7 1/2 inch barrel. About 1000 were built. They have their own serial range.
Caliber selection was typically a standard fare of 22, 32-20, 357, 38-40, 44-40, and 45LC. Auxiliary cylinders could be purchased with several of those chambered to make for a convertible revolver.
The Dakota was at times available in 30 Carbine, one of a very few production handguns offered in this caliber.
The Dakota was available by special order in nickel finish.
Standard grips were walnut or a European hardwood.
Dakotas from 1962 to 1968 have no safety mechanism. Revolvers from 1969 to 71 generally have a hammer wheel safety. Revolvers after that have a base pin safety.  On Jagers, this is an odd "twist" base pin rather than the“Swiss” two notch pin that became common on Italian SAA replicas.
Quality, Collectable, and Value -
Italian cowboy revolvers from the 70’s are to this day described as cheaply made and poorly built.
This piece of common knowledge was never really true, The spaghetti replicas are quite good and have been from the start. They have always been steel rather than alloy. Also, they had quite a bit more hand fit and finish than was required to build them at that time.
These are traits of a high quality product, not junk.
The Jager revolver is a good revolver. Exterior dimensions are nominally larger than the original Colt Peacemaker. A Jager is without a doubt much stronger than a 1st generation Colt, a useful comparison.
As cowboy shooting grew in the USA, buyers' demand for authenticity became more stringent. Jager nonetheless declined to change its design. Ultimately its gun was usurped in the marketplace by more “true-to-Colt” ASMs and Ubertis.
Jager serial numbering was strictly numerical and ascending, starting at 1. Examples from around 1990 have serials that approach 100,000. That number is subsequently a reasonable estimate of total production over 30 years. Much of those guns are in Europe, where Jager also did business.
The Armi Dakota Legacy -
Armi San Marco failed in the early 2000 for reasons having nothing to do with the overall demand for reproduction cowboy revolvers. Uberti remained as the sole Italian clone maker, but they had just been acquired by Beretta. Rather than expand to capture ASM's market, Uberti's distribution was put under tighter corporate discipline as production got directed by Beretta sales networks.
Several mail order houses relied on Italian six shooters to anchor their catalogs, and they failed to fulfill orders. This was an obvious void for another Brescian company to fill, and it was Pietta that came into supplying the need. Having not offered a Peacemaker clone before, they started by getting Jager's old forging for the Dakota cylinder frame. They updated the build with modern CNC machining, and assembled finished guns with Colt sized screws and parts. But the lineage of Pietta’s modern rendered, authentically dimensioned the Colt Cowboy Revolver original Dakota by Jager.
Dakota” remains brilliantly evocative as a private label name for a Cowboy Six Gun. EMF owns this trademark. After contracting with Armi San Marco and Uberti over the 1990’s for Peacemaker clones, EMF began a long term relationship with Pietta in 2003.
Manufacturing -
Company: Armi Jager (Known late as Jager Adler).  Hammerli marked variant also 1969 to 1972.
Location: Loano, Italy
Model: Dakota, Frontier 1873, Nevada, Kansas, Pioneer
Calibers: 22, 30 Carbine, 32-20, 357 Magnum, 38-40, 41 Mag, 44-40, 44 Mag, 45 Long Colt
Barrels: 4.75, 5.5 (most common), and 7.5 inches
Variants: Super Dakota, Buntline, Sheriff, Target, Bisley
Years Manufactured: 1962 to 1993


The Downsides to this Revolver are -
1) The screw that holds the side ejector assembly can easily be striped, see close up photo below ....

2) The Cylinder Base Pin can be pushed in too far preventing the cylinder from rotating, see close up photo below ....

Homemade Video of my Dakota Armi Jager 45 Long Colt Cowboy Revolver with an Action Job -


The Upsides to this Revolver are -
1) Quality manufacturing
2) Very accurate
3) Easy to work on
4) Interchangeable parts with Colt

Some more photos of the Dakota 45LC -










 



One of my friends shooting the Dakota 45 LC in the Arizona Desert ....


Catalog from the 1980s -

==> My recommendation on the Armi Jager Model Dakota 45 Long Colt Cowboy Revolver is -
a BUY as a Collectible.






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