Firearm Forum Question: What is a Reasonable Price for an Extra Ruger Cylinder

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Can you give me some guidance on how much I should pay for an Extra Ruger Revolver Cylinder? 

Thank you Karl Zicon.

Answer :

Blog Administrator -

Always remember, the market drives the price, i.e. Economics 101, Law of Supply and Demand.

Saying that, Ruger Cowboy Single Action Revolver Cylinders are in two general categories, the original 3-Screw Version plus that next generation, and the current models which are mainly manufactured by third parties like Davidson and Lipsey.

If you can find an extra or replacement cylinder the Ruger Cowboy 22LR and 22 Magnum are the most commonly available and run about $125.00 on eBay. The 357 Magnum and 44 Magnum are going between $95.00 and $125.00. The 45 Long Colt (LC) is around $75.00. The 45 acp goes for around $125.00. The 41 Magnum and 44-40, which are rare can be upwards of $175.00. The later version 9mm and 30 Caliber are $125.00 to $200.00.

Special Note: Lately the 357 Magnum has been popular because these can be bored out to accept a 9mm and 44-40. See pictures of some Ruger cylinders below:

Ruger 22 LR (Long Rifle) Cylinder -

Ruger 357 Magnum Cylinder -

Ruger 45acp and 45 LC (Long Colt) Cylinders -

Ruger Factory Blackhawk Original 45acp Cylinder -

Bearcat and Bisley Ruger Cylinders often are engraved -

If you are shopping for an extra or replacement cylinder, be patient, and check eBay frequently to find what you want.

The double Action Ruger Cylinders (all calibers) are around $125.00, make sure these are complete with the ejector rod.

Parts of a Double Action Revolver -

The prices above do not include the old Ruger Black Powder Revolvers, or conversion cylinders which can still be purchased new for around $230.00.

Ruger 45 Long Colt Black Powder Cylinder -

Commentary -

The older Ruger cylinders are getting harder to find and more expensive. Double Action Revolver Cylinders are NOT interchangeable with Cowboy style Single Action Handgun Cylinders.

Disclaimer -
The prices above are a guideline based on current market at time of the post.

==> My recommendation is -
Make damn sure the Ruger cylinder you purchase is for your Ruger Revolver.

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Firearm Forum Question: Supreme Court Refuses to Hear Case on Firearms, a Win for Anti-Gun Supporters

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Can you share any information on the recent Supreme Court ruling banning certain types of weapons including assault rifles? 

Thank you Benjamin R. Suncrest.

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Answer :

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The U.S. Supreme Court, currently short one judge, ruled on Monday, June 20, 2016, in a split decision 4-4 that they would NOT hear an appeals case banning Assault Weapons passed in Connecticut and New York.
This puts a serious blow to Gun Owners.
It allows the laws passed in Connecticut and New York to stand, at least for now.

This decision comes just after the Orlando shootings by an ISIS follower and born U.S. Radicalized Muslim.

The Connecticut weapons (gun) ban was passed after the Sandy Hook Shootings by Governor Dannel Malloy in April 2013. Expanding on an earlier assault weapons ban in the state, it banned more than 100 types of firearms along with magazines that can hold more than 10 rounds of ammunition. Governor Andrew Cuomo signed a similar ban in New York.

This is a serious blow to Gun Owners and the Second Amendment to the U.S. Constitution, The Right to Keep and Bear Arms.

Anti-Gun Liberal loons are just thrilled with themselves. President Obama said. "This is a start but does not go far enough."

Not covered in the news, it does, however, support the 10th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution concerning States Rights.

IMPORTANT: This is why this years presidential election is so damn important. If you are a Gun owner or plan on becoming a Gun Owner or someone in you family is a Gun owner you cannot allow Hillary Clinton to become President of the United States.
Reason: The next president will be appointing new judges, possible as many as 3 to the U.S. Supreme Court.
The democrat agent is to abolish the 2nd Amendment and take away everyone's guns, regardless of what they say. There methodology is to slowly erode your gun rights, and they have been very successful since 1928. In short, Liberals never pass up the opportunity to create havoc among voters by using a tragedy to expand their Liberal agenda.
The First Amendment gives us the Right to Free Speech and Religion, but remember the Second Amendment insures the First and all others cannot be taken away by an out of control government.

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Firearm Forum Question: Alternative Method to Purchasing or Owning a NFA Weapon

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It has come to my attention that a person does not have to purchase an NFA weapon from a Licensed FFL but can in fact build their own, is this true? I am considering building my own Suppressor.

Thank you Johnny Come Lately.

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Answer :

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Yes and No, depends on the weapon or device.

But to your specific question about Suppressors, at the moment, Yes, you can build your own but you will need the approval from the BATF/ATF first, and still pay the $200.00 Tax Stamp.

Be careful, you cannot build the suppressor or weapon first, then get approval, You must submit on ATF Form 1 a request to build the device. A simple sketch must be submitted. When approval is granted, you can then build the weapon or device according to your sketch, specifications, and parts list. When approved, you will receive a Federal Tax Stamp, that you sent a money order for $200.00 with Form 1 and your sketch.

Form 1 can be filed as an Individual, Gun Trust, LLC, or Corporation.

Here is the LINK to the ATF Form 1 online:

https://www.atf.gov/file/11281/download

Form 1 also includes AOW, any other weapon.

Example: You modified a shotgun or rifle that the barrel and/or overall length is less than permitted. You can fill out a Form 1 and pay the $200.00 Tax Stamp.

Important: If the device does not work, you can not build another device without another submittal and an additional $200.00 for a new Tax Stamp. If you are NOT sure what you are doing, avoid this, at minimum contact the ATF and ask any questions before you start.

Very Important: It is illegal to own a Machine Gun or Machine Pistol (fully automatic weapon). These require a special FFL License and a Tax Stamp for each item.

Also, see this LINK about Suppressors -

http://askafirearmsquestion.blogspot.com/2015/02/firearm-forum-question-what-you-need-to.html

Commentary -

If you have a question on an AOW, Suppressor, or any of the Forms 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 do not hesitate to call the local ATF office for guidance.

==> My recommendation on Building a NEW Suppressor is -
to Avoid this, just buy a Manufactured Suppressor through a Licensed FFL in your area.

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Firearm Forum Question: Federal Court Ruling on Concealed Carry Permits

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Someone told me Gun Rights Activist (Pro Gun / Gun Owners) lost a battle in Federal Court over carrying a concealed weapon, what can you tell me?

Thank you James McMillin.

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Answer :

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There was a ruling in Federal Court, the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals that ruled:

No Right to Concealed Gun Carry.

See more below ....

Essentially in a divided court, by a vote of 7-4, the 9th Federal Appeals Court on Thursday, June 9, 2016, stated that there is NO Constitutional Right to Carry a Concealed Weapon.

The court stated ....

"The protection of the Second Amendment - whatever the scope of that protection may be simply does not extend to the carrying of concealed firearms in public by members of the general public."

These action and ruling was brought upon by Gun Owners in two California counties challenged the requirement that they show "good cause," as defined by county sheriffs, before they could get concealed carry permits.

The court declined to say whether the Constitution protects openly carrying a gun in public. It said that question was not at issue in the case.

The court claimed its decision on the following ...

Thursday's majority opinion traced the rights of gun owners from medieval England to the founding of the United States and through the Civil War, finding that local laws almost universally prohibited carrying concealed firearms in public.

In 1897, well after the adoption of the Second Amendment, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled that "the right of the people to bear arms is not infringed by laws prohibiting the carrying of concealed weapons."

The appeals court said it followed the U.S. Supreme Court's method of looking to history to resolve gun rights issues.

"Because the Second Amendment does not protect in any degree the right to carry concealed firearms in public, any prohibition or restriction a state may choose to impose on concealed carry including the requirement of 'good cause,' however defined is necessary allowed by the Amendment," the 9th Circuit said.

Many states have similar restrictions on concealed carry, and the lower courts are divided on whether they violate the Second Amendment. So far, however, the Supreme Court has declined to take up the issue in the wake of its landmark 2008 ruling that found a right to own a gun at home for self-defense.

Important: The 9th Circuit has jurisdiction over most of the Western Sataes, as shown below. If another Federal Court rules differently, it the would be decided by the Supreme Court which is currently short one judge.

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Firearm Forum Question: BATF, Rule Change, Application for a Suppressor

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Can you shed some light on the NEW rules for acquiring a Suppressor?
Thank you Leroy Jenkins.

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This is a helpful outline for anyone who is thinking of Purchasing a New Suppressor (Silencer). It is NOT intended to act as a Legal Document, but is published for Information Purposes only.

Answer :

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Yes the rules for ownership have changed and will take effect July 13, 2016.
These rules are governed by the BATF
(ATF: Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms Bureau of Homeland Security). The agency regulates firearms and monitor and change rules for ownership of certain types of Firearms, Weapons, and Accessories which include Suppressors.



The Rule Change is referred to as - ATF 41f (previously known as Rule 41P).
Here is essentially the overall layout of the new 41f Rule ...

What is ATF Rule 41f ?

ATF Rule 41f is the final regulatory rule signed by the Obama administration on January 4, 2016 regarding the transfer and manufacture of weapons regulated by the National Firearms Act. The initial proposed rule (Rule 41P) proposed adding a new definition of a "responsible person" to the regulations and would have required all responsible persons in any entity used to purchase or manufacture NFA weapons to obtain the signature of their Chief Law Enforcement Officer (CLEO signature) on the application, as well as submit fingerprints, and 2 photographs for review by ATF examiners. 

Major Change: Entities, such as Gun Trusts, LLCs and Corporations, have become a popular mechaism for acquiring NFA weapons because individuals experienced difficulty in obtaining the CLEO signature in many areas of the United States. At times it was outright impossible, therefore, the use of an entity to acquire such weapons did not previously require the applicant to obtain the CLEO signature.

ATF Rule 41f is the Obama administration's final version of the proposed rule and will have a substantial impact on the use of Gun Trusts and other legal documents in the purchase and sharing of NFA weapons, which include Suppressors.

When does Rule 41f go into effect:

The effective date of the rule will be 180 days from the date that it is published in the Federal Register, which was January 15, 2016. That makes it effective July 13, 2016. All paperwork that was submitted to the NFA Branch for processing prior to July 13, 2016 will be processed under the former rules.

Note: If your paperwork is received by midnight July 13, 2016 it will be processed under the old rule. You should send all documents to the ATF by Priority Mail with a tracking number.

What to anticipate -

There is all ready a huge rush by applicants of 'Suppressors' to get a Form 4 submitted to the ATF before the deadline. Manufacturers have had problems keeping up with demand. Even if you get your paperwork submitted before the deadline expect a long response time before approval, probably at least 6-months.

ATF Form 4 -

https://www.atf.gov/firearms/docs/form/form-4-application-tax-paid-transfer-and-registration-firearm-atf-form-53204/download

Current Problems that affect the purchase of a Suppressor or other weapons that require a $200.00 Tax Stamp and approval from the BATF.

1) You must purchase a Suppressor from a licensed FFL (Federal Firearms Licensed) Dealer.

2) The FFL must acquire these Suppressors from either the manufacturer, i.e Gemtech, Yankee Hill, etc. or their licensed distributor. The FFL must fill out Form 2 and the ATF must approve the transfer and sale from the manufacturer to the local licensed FFL. This is currently taking approximately 3 months.

ATF Form 2 -

https://www.atf.gov/file/61531/download

3) If a dealer needs 3 months approval before they get the suppressor to sell you, the July 13, 2016 date will expire.

This is why, if you want to purchase a Suppressor or other Form 4 Weapon, you should acquire one from a licensed FFL in your immediate area that have the item you want in stock, good luck on that.

IMPORTANT: If you have any questions, please contact the ATF directly.

This page is merely a guideline and not a legal definition of any government rule, regulation, or law.

Also, see this LINK about Suppressors -

http://askafirearmsquestion.blogspot.com/2015/02/firearm-forum-question-what-you-need-to.html

Commentary -

If you have not all ready sent in your application for a suppressor, it probably is best that you wait a few months, let the traffic backlog get back to normal, and simply just submit the new items under the requirement - 2 Photos and a Fingerprint Card.
.

==> My recommendation on a Purchase of a NEW Suppressor is -
to wait until around September 2016.

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Firearm Forum Question: Caracal Model C Handgun Recall

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I have been told that my Caracal Model C Handgun is on Recall, what's going on?
Thank you Jimmy Jawbreaker.

Answer :

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Yes this entire series of handguns are on Total Recall.
If you own one of these handguns do NOT fire it.
See the Product Warning and Recall Notice below, this is a photo image click to enlarge.
Call the number below and return handgun to the manufacturer.

Contact Caracal at:

For USA Customers only -

Caracal Phone Number:

205-655-7050 (voice mail)

- or -

Email Caracal at:

info@caracal-usa.com

For International Customers Email Caracal at -

recall@caracal.ae

Mouse Over Image, Click to Enlarge

Commentary -

This is an Overpriced Handgun of extremely poor quality and presents a danger to anyone shooting it. This firearms manufacturer should be banned from importing any weapons into the United States.
.

==> My recommendation on ALL Caracal Handguns and Firearms is -
a NO BUY.

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Firearm Forum Question: What is a Fluted Cylinder

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What is a Flutted Cylinder and what is its purpose?
Thank you Luck 8.

Ruger Cowboy Six Gun with Smooth Cylinder .....

Ruger Cowboy Six Gun with Fluted Cylinder .....

Answer :

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Fluted versus full smooth cylinder is a design whereby some of the material (metal) of the cylinder is cut out of the surface to reduce the weight. These cut outs are groves in the cylinder and do not affect the performance of the revolver.
In some cases barrels are fluted, especially sniper style rifles.
Both style cylinders can be found on Single Action and Double Action Revolvers made by Ruger, Colt, and Smith-Wesson.
Many cowboy shooters with single action revolvers prefer fluted cylinders because it aids in indexing the cylinder (lining up the cylinder with your fingers with the chambers).
Originally all cylinders were made smooth.
Larger caliber handguns such as the 44 magnum more weight is preferred to reduce the recoil.
Smaller handgun calibers like the .22, 38, and 357 make the gun lighter and easier to use for most people.
I own a Ruger Birds Head Cowboy Revolver and have interchangeable cylinders that include 45 Long Colt, 45 ACP, and 41 Magnum all of which are fluted, and a 44 Magnum that is not fluted (smooth).
A lot of people think the Fluted Cylinder is more aesthetic looking.
See pictures above.

Related Topic Posts at The Firearms Forum Site:
1) Ruger Cowboy Revolvers -

http://askafirearmsquestion.blogspot.com/2013/11/forum-question.html

2) Cowboy Revolver, Which is Best the Ruger, Colt, or Uberti -

http://askafirearmsquestion.blogspot.com/2013/12/forum-question-cowboy-revolver-which-is.html

Commentary -

There are no issues on owning either a Fluted or Smooth Cylinder. It is a personal preference. I would recommend a smooth cylinder on larger calibers such as the 44 Magnum, 30 Caliber, 454 Casull. etc.

==> My recommendation on Cylinders is -
a BUY by Personal Choice.

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